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Rich in MT
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 Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 10:45 am Post subject: Cloward-Piven Strategy
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I'm looking for similiarites between Gansta Rap and the Cloward-Piven Strategy. The Cloward-Piven strategy is outlined Here.
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| First proposed in 1966 and named after Columbia University sociologists Richard Andrew Cloward and Frances Fox Piven, the "Cloward-Piven Strategy" seeks to hasten the fall of capitalism by overloading the government bureaucracy with a flood of impossible demands, thus pushing society into crisis and economic collapse. |
It seems like rappers are trying to overwhelm social decency with a flood of language and actions that make it impossible to be met with civility. Take Michelle's posting at HotAir as a sample. Link
What do you think?
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Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 8:46 pm Post subject:
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They have bursted the flood gates of decency.
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Rather than placating the poor with government hand-outs, wrote Cloward and Piven, activists should work to sabotage and destroy the welfare system; the collapse of the welfare state would ignite a political and financial crisis that would rock the nation; poor people would rise in revolt; only then would "the rest of society" accept their demands.
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They could also put a bullet in their head. The dummy thinks Americans will hand over liberty to people who choose to conduct themselves as savages.
Btw thank you for sharing this article with us. I had a left wing professor some years ago who lectured on Cloward and his attempt to get many to join welfare. Of course he omitted the agenda to cause socialist revolution. I should have known, liberals don't care about the poor.
They are trying the samething with illegal aliens today. They want to use them to flood the system. Illegal aliens if granted amnesty would be a huge voting block. They are willing to use violence. This is a security issue and President Bush needs to understand the dynamics in the democrat strategy to bring communism.
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Rich in MT
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Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 9:21 pm Post subject:
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I had the opportunity to attend a lecture by Frances Fox Piven at a local University. She was invited as part of a series of distinguished professors, and an invitation to the general public was extended in the local newspaper. It seemed like a name I should have known and did some internet searches and read up on her. I went to the lecture prepared.
The event consisted of her giving prepared remarks for about an hour, and then the floor was opened up for question and answers. Her remarks consisting mostly of Bush bashing and the typical liberal blather about how terrible the war in Iraq was and how evil America has become. I listened irritated but patient.
I actually got to ask the first question, and I politely asked if she still adhered to the Cloward-Piven Strategy. She at first pretended to not know what I was talking about, but when I pressed her and shook a handful of documents at her indicating that I had some research at hand, she mumbled something about how that was a long time ago and that times had changed. First question out of the block and she presented her first lie.
The next question was from a much more irritated Iraq War vet sitting several rows behind me. He basically told her to shove a very long pole up her arse. Actually he was much more elegant but it was very spot on and to the point. She gave him a BS answer and when he respond with fervor the crowd started yelling for him to be quiet. The rest of the event was chaotic, as from that point on, I mocked her with laughs like the bully from the Simpsons, you know HA HA, and egging people on who disagreed with her and having quite a good time, although I was rather angry at the time.
When the event ended she asked for any further questions and I made quite a show of myself raising my handing and doing an Arnold Horshack like oooh oooh Mr. Kotter, Mr. Kotter gesture. She made of point of making sure everybody knew she was pointedly ignoring me. I started even telling her that I promised to give her easy questions.
Anyway, after the event, some wanna be moonbats tried to engage me in argument, but they didn’t even get to the playing field. They opened with lines like “You owe her respect” to which I made quick work of by a short “No, I don’t, you’re an idiot if you think she has anything worth respecting”. Me and the vet were each surrounded by small groups of silly little people trying to have 3 or 4 arguments with each of us simultaneously. I felt honored to be on the side of that young man, although we both allowed the other to fend off our own moonbats. He was quite up to the task, and I admired his quick thinking on his feet.
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Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 9:49 am Post subject:
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So now the libs think it is disrespectful to bring up their history and question their speakers. Whatever happened to speaking truth to power? You did a great job and should be proud.
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Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 9:51 am Post subject:
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Rich, did you wash your hands after playing with the liberals?
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Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 10:10 am Post subject:
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Soap, water and rubbing alcohol may not be enough. He may need to wear gloves and spray them with lysol.
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Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 7:06 am Post subject:
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| They are trying the samething with illegal aliens today. They want to use them to flood the system. Illegal aliens if granted amnesty would be a huge voting block. They are willing to use violence. This is a security issue and President Bush needs to understand the dynamics in the democrat strategy to bring communism. |
AMEN Cons Indy!! That is EXACTLY what the agenda is!! 
Rich in MT: I commend you for standing up with your buddie amongst these loonie libs!! 
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Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 4:04 pm Post subject:
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| Rich in MT wrote: |
| Anyway, after the event, some wanna be moonbats tried to engage me in argument, but they didn’t even get to the playing field. They opened with lines like “You owe her respect” to which I made quick work of by a short “No, I don’t, you’re an idiot if you think she has anything worth respecting”. Me and the vet were each surrounded by small groups of silly little people trying to have 3 or 4 arguments with each of us simultaneously. I felt honored to be on the side of that young man, although we both allowed the other to fend off our own moonbats. He was quite up to the task, and I admired his quick thinking on his feet. |
Good job! Great post.
Let 'em have it!
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