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darnhank
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 Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 11:46 pm Post subject: What did lardass do in Nam?
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I'm sure he served his country well in that hell hole. Let his decorations speak for themselves. I just wonder why he thinks the Japanese would stand for stationing more US troops in their territory. (Okinawa)
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Col. Nathan Jessup
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Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 8:10 pm Post subject:
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I would'nt want to speculate on what any soldier did or went through in that war, but I don't get how someone who wore that uniform can stand there today in a suit & tie and do everything in his power to undermine the guys who are wearing it today
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mlf
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Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 9:03 pm Post subject:
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| Col. Nathan Jessup wrote: |
| I would'nt want to speculate on what any soldier did or went through in that war, but I don't get how someone who wore that uniform can stand there today in a suit & tie and do everything in his power to undermine the guys who are wearing it today |
Col. Jessup, welcome to the forum! 
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John in Dublin
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Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 9:05 pm Post subject:
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Colonel....welcome.
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DrWhoFan65
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Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 9:12 pm Post subject:
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| Col. Nathan Jessup wrote: |
| I would'nt want to speculate on what any soldier did or went through in that war, but I don't get how someone who wore that uniform can stand there today in a suit & tie and do everything in his power to undermine the guys who are wearing it today |
Being a rational person and a veteran, I see only one way to understand it...the man's a traitor. That goes for Hagel, too, not to mention Kerry.
Welcome aboard, Colonel!
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Col. Nathan Jessup
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Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 11:53 am Post subject:
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Thanks for the welcome gentlemen!
I plan on sticking around for awhile too
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USMC162
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Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 12:19 am Post subject:
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DrWhoFan65 has it right. Murhta is a traitor. What he is doing is the equivalent of leaving your dead and wounded on the battlefield. As a former Marine, I am especially disgusted by his actions in the House.
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Demofan
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Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 2:38 am Post subject:
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WOW!!! I have always wanted to explore the possible motives of why/how a once "Patriot" becomes a "Traitor".
I don't see the logic...the benefits...the transition...etc..
Call me naive...I just don't.
Greed & power @ the expense of the American people & our Country???? SAY IT ISN'T SO!! 
I know you are all "GREAT AMERICANS" here, so you could not possibly speak from personal experience, but do you have any insight as to how this could happen??
Welcome Colonel. You will soon find out that I question almost everything. I'm trying to get educated here.
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Kaziglu_Bey
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Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 5:26 am Post subject:
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| Col. Nathan Jessup wrote: |
| I would'nt want to speculate on what any soldier did or went through in that war, but I don't get how someone who wore that uniform can stand there today in a suit & tie and do everything in his power to undermine the guys who are wearing it today |
I'd also like to welcome you, Col., and you aren't the only one who doesn't get it.
Well, somethings just don't make any sense, and to myself sense really doesn't matter when the effect of actions are clear. Benedict Arnold wasn't the first traitor to have worn the uniform, wasn't the last either. To myself, also, these men clearly disgrace it, not sure where this service worship came from. It's a bigger crime having served, knowing first hand who you are selling out. Seems we live in a new wimpified America where a spade can't be called a spade for this reason or that.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but there was no over-looking Benedict Arnold's actions, due to service.
Guess the big question in my mind, is 'what have we allowed ourselves to become to fall for all this crap?'
Would it be un-P.C. to just toss lard azz in a room full of Marines and see how it comes out? P.C. or not, doubt we'd ever see it.
Sad thing, where's the justice? If there was any consistency we'd be obligated to just throw the doors open on the prisons and yell, 'get out of here, you're all free!'
Well, before say anything more, thank you for your service, sir. I'm committed to not allowing any of this to take away anything from our real heros, the best we have.
[And good call, Dr Who Fan, "traitor" indeed. Thank you for your service also. And, whoo hoo! Second Dr Who Fan I ever heard of. Good friend of mine, brilliant man, an EMT smokejumper and legend in his own time is a Dr Who fan, also. Going to have to tell him about this, he's not alone anymore.. unless you're him?]
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DrWhoFan65
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Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 6:16 am Post subject:
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| Kaziglu_Bey wrote: |
| [And good call, Dr Who Fan, "traitor" indeed. Thank you for your service also. And, whoo hoo! Second Dr Who Fan I ever heard of. Good friend of mine, brilliant man, an EMT smokejumper and legend in his own time is a Dr Who fan, also. Going to have to tell him about this, he's not alone anymore.. unless you're him?] |
The 65 in my name is my birthyear, if that helps, and an EMT smokejumper I'm not! Actually, there are a lot of fans of Doctor Who here in the USA-the real show; not this new series! Going by the promos I've seen I wouldn't watch it at gunpoint-wonder how your friend feels about that! IMHO the BBC has wussified the Doctor!
And thank you, KB...I am both proud and privileged to have served our country.
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DrWhoFan65
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Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 5:42 am Post subject:
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| Demofan wrote: |
WOW!!! I have always wanted to explore the possible motives of why/how a once "Patriot" becomes a "Traitor".
I don't see the logic...the benefits...the transition...etc..
Call me naive...I just don't.
Greed, power?? SAY IT ISN'T SO!!
I know you are all "GREAT AMERICANS" here, so you could not possibly speak from personal experience, but do you have any insight as to how this could happen?? |
It's hardly a simple subject, DF; it's very much an individual question. Why did Cain betray and murder his brother? Why did Judas betray Jesus? Why did Benedict Arnold betray the Revolution?
The short answers in those cases can probably be found among the Seven Deadly Sins (envy/greed/greed).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_deadly_sins
In this case it's not so easy to pin down. John "Lard Ass" Murtha, Schmagel, John “D-Student” Kerry, John Warner, Jim “Mellon Head” Webb, John McLame, Lindsay Graham, all former military officers, all but one a member of the Senate (I could mention House members John Dingell and John Conyers as well, plus Charles Rangel-although he wasn't a commissioned officer-but enough's enough anyhow)...all have pushed for or voted for measures which have made the war in Iraq (and the war on terrorism in general) that much more difficult to win. Those who aren't currently running for President are trying even now to make it impossible to win in Iraq.
I'm not prepared to say that I consider all of those I've mentioned traitors, because treason is an affair of the heart, but I do believe the term applies to Murtha, Kerry, and Hagel (and other non-veteran members of Congress), who have unambiguously slandered our Armed Forces on camera as well as casting votes to undermine them at every opportunity.
Why? I'm as interested in that question as I am in understanding the 'root-causes' behind 9-11. They're the enemy as surely as al qaida is, and they deserve the same fate. You like to learn, DF; well, do some research on those three and (if you accept my characterization of them as traitors) refer to the link above and decide for yourself what motivates them. I happen to think there's just something toxic in the air in DC that most natives are immune to, but not many members of Congress are; it causes one's spine to liquefy. (  Borrowed that from a story I'm writing.)
What do you think? And what about the others I mentioned, if you're really so interested...is it political pandering? Sincere principle? Treason?
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Hammer
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Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 7:01 am Post subject:
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Never underestimate the the aphrodisiac that is power. By all accounts, Murtha was pro military before becoming Pelosi-whipped. He saw himself as an aging nobody doomed to be forgotten. By betraying his past , he attained sudden fame and the ever present fawning of the Lib media, would be heady stuff for this insignificant blob. The pursuit of power is richly satisfied.
Add this to the environment that is the Democrat caucus; lying, equivocating and betrayal, and you have the formula for principle reversal.
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Hulksmash
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As a person who was born and raised just south of Murtha's district in PA I must say I am ashamed of that man. I do not understand how a person like that gets re-elected after the treasonous acts he has committed. People like him weaken our country and it is a shame that a number of people in central PA let him get away with it. What a disgrace.
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Conservative Indy
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Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 7:42 pm Post subject:
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Welcome Colonel, thank you for your service. Murtha needs to go back to basic training. It'll do wonders for his lard problem.
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Danielt
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Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 8:05 pm Post subject:
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| Demofan wrote: |
WOW!!! I have always wanted to explore the possible motives of why/how a once "Patriot" becomes a "Traitor".
I don't see the logic...the benefits...the transition...etc..
Call me naive...I just don't.
Greed & power @ the expense of the American people & our Country???? SAY IT ISN'T SO!!
I know you are all "GREAT AMERICANS" here, so you could not possibly speak from personal experience, but do you have any insight as to how this could happen??
Welcome Colonel. You will soon find out that I question almost everything. I'm trying to get educated here. |
IMHO, I don't think that a conservative could understand it. I think that it pretty much starts from the premise that America is evil, and has no business fighting wars. I am on a liberal board, and all of their arguements start with that premise.
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