Mark Levin was asked in an email today by Politico.com who has more influence, Glenn Beck or Rush Limbaugh. Mark’s answer was clear:
The only thing missing when Mark said it was this music playing in the background. Yes, Beck finally has a piece of the pie. Yet a good many wonder about his conservative credentials and whether his act is better suited for someone wearing pie on their face.
Update: A cross-post of this on Free Republic received 194 comments and 3,000 views in its first two hours.
Update: Not wanting what “started” this controversy to get lost in the minutia, I’ve made this a sticky post. It might be helpful to recall an important predicate to Mark saying Glenn Beck “ain’t no Rush Limbaugh,” this past Wednesday, “He may be entertaining, and he is, he may be informative, and he is…” Mark was not disparaging the talent and contributions made by Beck to the conservative movement; he was pointing out that the liberal media happily will use Beck’s self-promotion to diminish Rush. Why provide them the ammunition? By the way, MarkLevinFan.com is solely the property of its owner, MLF, who is not Mark Levin and the posts here about Beck were not made in consultation with Mark.
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I am sorry Mark but there really is no reason for
any conservatives to be ‘hammering’ one another.
Yes, you are all great. BUT YOU ARE THE GREATEST!
Mark, love you but Stop hammering Beck on air. You are right that he does not give credit when it is due but your screaming about it on air is more of a reflection on you than on him. You do not look clever or witty. You look petty and bitter. And while you accuse Beck of ‘self promotion’, you never miss an opportunity to hawk your own book. Find another way to deal with Beck besides looking immature. Stop giving fodder to the libs.
Mark,
I love your show and I have just begun reading your latest book. I have not listened to your latest comments on Beck but I did hear you knocking him a couple days ago, along with O’Reilly for not having you on their shows. I have no problem with you bashing O’Reilly. He is a lazy, pompous, moderate jerk. However, Beck seems to be a hard worker and he is doing some good work. Please save your salvos for more deserving targets.
Thanks. BTW, I wish that you were on a local Jackson, MS affiliate in the evenings. I have to listen through the static of WHAS in Louisville. Again, thanks for the fine work that you are doing for this country.
Mike: You might try out the audio stream.
Politico?
Did you mean Pollutico?
I have a copy of “Liberty and Tyranny” and bought a copy for each of my children for future reading (7 and 12 years old). Congratulations on the million copies sold.
I am a Rush 24/7 member, Mark Levin podcast listener, and Hannity show watcher. Although Glen Beck’s show is sometimes over the top in its production, I do enjoy watching it when I am able. I was surprised by your comment about Beck, but then you never hide the truth or your true feelings with platitudes.
My seven your old daughter, Reagan, gave me her conservative talk show host ranking the other day: (1) Mark Levin; (2) Rush Limbaugh; and, (3) Sean Hannity.
FYI – When I was at the Tea Party Express Whistle Stop in Mt. Vernon, Texas, I spread the word about the Conservative Manifesto in pdf on your website.
I had angioplasty on 2 arteries in my heart Mon & always listen to you on the way to church on Wed night, tonight when I heard your comments about Glen Beck I felt like a fist had hit me in the chest, this is just what the left wants, conservatives bashing each other. You are no longer the Great One in my eyes. Not that you ever really were
GOD HELP AMERICA
Pat
Mr. Levin,
I love your show. I also listen to Rush and watch Beck. I can’t stand Beck’s constant equivocation of Demorats and Republicans. However, you can’t convert demorats if they tune you out — then you are just “preaching to the choir”.
True, your show offers much more substance than Beck, but Beck serves a TV segment that neither your show or Rush’s show may reach. Just as I am sick of Beck’s saying there is no difference between a Republican and a Demorat (there is: 80% of Republicans are conservative while at most 5 % of Demorats are respectible – as evidenced by voting records),I am also sick of the attacks on Beck. Like it or not, he is on the same team. You only hurt the cause with your attacks. I beg of you to follow Rush’s and your friend Hannity’s example. Neither of them, to my knowlege, personally attack Beck. Rush has even appeared on Beck’s show.
You repeatedly emphasize that your book is not about making money or about you, but forwarding the cause of liberty and conservatism. However, when you attack Beck for allegedly “stealing” your ideas, you contradict yourself. Even if Beck does use your words or your concepts, the cause is still advanced by more people becoming educated, regardless of the source, is it not?
Todd
Mark, I am in the process of reading your million dollar book and have learned a great deal from it. I also listen to your radio program on the way home from work and wanted to tell you how very much I always look forward to it. After hearing your negative comments about Glenn Beck just now, however, I can’t tell you how disappointed I am in you. Knowledge and wisdom should go hand in hand. Your knowledge is very evident. Now work on your wisdom. Conservatism needs no broken chains!
Wow! I had not heard this from Mark. I’m very disappointed. Just as I’m disappointed when I hear Savage refer to Rush as “Hush Bimbo”.
Why do these guys feel they have to compete??? They’re on the same side, for Pete’s sake!
Levin should have taken the high road and responded to Politico that it’s not about “competition”. They promote similar messages in different ways. Of course Rush is the “king” of conservative media, no one can dispute that. Rush has been around for a heckuva lot longer, and paved the way for everyone else, and I listen to him every day. But we need more people who preach a similar message. I mean, what if Rush were gone tomorrow? I want some backups sending the same message across the airwaves!
Damn. Like I wrote, I’m REALLY disappointed that Mark would say this.
I’m sorry if it upsets some of you, but I’m not a blind follower (as we often –and rightly– accuse the left of being). If I hear something that doesn’t make sense to me, I’m not going to sit idly by and not speak out.
I still love Mark. But there’s no one I agree with 100% of the time, and this is one of those VERY rare times where I don’t.
One last point: Beck was BEHIND the whole 9-12 march concept several months ago, so I can’t help but think that Mark is a little jealous. I mean, c’mon. Why isn’t he applauding him, for goodness sake? It doesn’t take anything away from himself or Rush. I still listen to all of them every day when I can. I’m addicted.
Well, I ,for one, applaud Mark for his defense of the pioneer and undisputed leader of the Conservative movement, Rush Limbaugh.
This was about a friend defending a friend. I don’t watch or listen to Beck. I don’t need him or anyone else to get me involved in the Tea Party movement. If I have Rush and TGO, I have it all. The rest are pretenders. I don’t have anything against them, just don’t have time for them.
What I admire in a man are his principles. Among those, honesty and loyalty rank at the top. Mark exhibits these in this clip and Rush is the definition of them, in his career.
In reference to previous comments; If a man uses intellectual property, without credit, he is dishonest and unworthy of conservative leadership.
Stick with it Mark. You call them as you see them. That’s why I listen.
In reference to previous comments; If a man uses intellectual property, without credit, he is dishonest and unworthy of conservative leadership.
Folks, for cripes sake! Mark didn’t attack Beck here; he simply said that Rush is far superior. Duh!!
I was rather amazed by his restraint, actually.
I wasn’t able to listen to Mark’s comments until just now. I read all of your comments, first, and was prepared to be disappointed, myself. But, I heard something far different than many of you apparently did. Mark always sticks up for his friends and what Mark said about Rush is exactly right. Mark is 100% on target when he says if not for Rush Limbaugh, there would be no talk radio. His comments about Beck are also accurate.
Here’s where the problem is. Since switching to Fox, Beck is getting a large following from the all the Libertarian-leaning conservatives. All the Ron Paul fans and people that believe there must be 3rd party in this country. Mark & Rush reject the 3rd party option, while Beck embraces the idea. Beck also embraces all the “right-wing” conspiracy theories you read on WorldNetDaily and NewsMax. Beck is closer to Lou Dobbs and Joseph Farah than Rush, Mark and Sean. Beck has also never had a kind word for Rush and Sean that I’m aware of. So, when Mark hears suggestions that Beck is more popular than Rush, he understandably rejects that.
In my opinion, Mark ought to get his own TV show and hammer Beck in the ratings, like Mark has hammered Michael Savage in the radio ratings. That would be great for Mark’s fans and great for the country!
Re: Comment #13: “…Here’s where the problem is. …” ~ MLF
You got THAT right!
Repeating my comment from the FR thread mentioned above:
“Beck is pushing the Libertarian Party..” ~ DainBramage
True. Right now, he’s another attractive Pied-Piper like Perot was, and in spite of Rush’s warning at the time, many people followed him right over the cliff.
Right now, the “bad-cop” blow-back he’s getting from Levin, along with the “good-cop” blow-back he’s getting from Rush (re playing with the idea of a third party) are both warnings to him to either help us conservatives take back the Republican Party from the RINOS, or he can expect us to turn the “marginalization” heat up even higher on him.
There are only two VIABLE political parties. The way things are set up by these two parties make it an impossibility for a third party to win due to the electoral college. Beck will eventually see the light, heed the warnings and decide to be a team player, or he will self-destruct and wind up a laughing stock.
266 posted on Thursday, September 17, 2009 8:08:12 AM by Matchett-PI (A Socialist becomes a Fascist the minute he tries to enforce his “beliefs” on the rest of us.)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2341581/posts?page=266#266
I just heard the audio clip. I think the reaction and hysteria about Mark giving a below the belt blow to Beck is way over the top! All I hear is Mark defending Rush, for what appears to be an attempt to promote Beck over Rush, in the media game.
Rush was one of the very first Talk SHows I listened to in 2004 when I started following US politics during the 2004 campaign. I kept listening because he could back up his arguments with logic on how Economics 101 work in the real world.
Of course Mark has a different style where he lends his expertise with his vast legal nous on US COnstitution Law. Fascinating. Absolutely. Yes, Mr. Levin is quick to come to the defense of his friends. Here is such an instance.
I think those are upset by Mark’s remarks have over read it – both Levin & Beck probably aren’t even remotely that upset! LOL
Heath: Mark was not just supporting Rush when he compared Glenn Beck to George Jefferson. I have never heard Glenn Beck attack another conservative that way. Repeatedly I have heard him praise Rush Limbaugh, and when callers have told him about the attacks of others, he has always defended his colleagues. I had no idea that the “back-bencher” Mark has been criticizing is GB. I still say, Mark, work it out off the air, because you come across as a jealous jerk with the George Jefferson remarks. GB is building his fan-base in large part because he doesn’t seem to have the massive, bloviating ego of so many of his fellow hosts.
Wasn’t Rush on a Beck show or visa versa?
Rush was on with Beck, yeah…week before last, I believe. I saw it via Rush’s site, and it wasn’t bad.
Some may cite that as an example of Rush’s self-promotion tendencies, as if he NEEDS any promotion at all, being #1. He’s gone on many shows over the years, most often by phone as in this case; the Greta thing was unusual for him. And why do they bring him on (or try to)? It jacks up their ratings.
Rush stays above the fray because he CAN…but I think it’s safe to say that-as with Mark-if his friends were attacked, he wouldn’t hesitate to sound off.
Mark might’ve been wiser to ignore the media puke’s email, because it may have had precisely this intent.
For the record…task, I was replying to your comment, but only the first part was directed at you.
Beck’s popularity emerges from the fact that he produces the play on the book and teachings of Levin. I listened to Beck before he was popular in regard to the Terri S case and the banking debacle. As Mark Twain said. “It is amazing how much the old man has learned”. Notice the signs at the 9/12 rally. They look like they were written in 1790. That is because everyone is now aware of founding principles and I know who was on first, first.
That TV and a lot of emotion does a lot for what Levin started in the first place.
Mark talking on Imus’s show right now. Audio clip to be posted soon!
Mark stated (boldy and clearly) THAT BECK IS SUPPORTED BY THE LEFT. What the hell is he talking about? Beck has woken up the sleeping giant, and has made it possible for Rush, Sean, and yes Mark to capture the momentum created by the tenacious, courageous efforts of Beck and his staff. This COMMIE administration would like nothing better than to cause division and strife amongst this group of dynamite conservative voices.
Mark and Rush grew stale, not because of anything other than the shock and paralyized effect of the rotten and failed Repubican campaign. Glenn Beck has lit the match that was badly needed to jump start the ideas and insights that Mark, Rush, Sean and others bring to the table of SAVING CONSERVATISM.
Beck admits he is a novice in this arena….embrace his efforts…mentor him! Trust me, there is plenty of room for a few over-zealous, blowhearts, at this point.
To continue down this road, Mark, is to ignore and show lack of respect to all of us who have woken up and taken the challenges of you leaders. At this point Beck carries the torch, so ride the wave with us. With you, Rush,Sean, and yea maybe even the wash-out Oreiley, we just may reverse the rigamortous within the conservative camps.
I pray that anyone who gets in the way of this effort, which ultimately saves our Repubic, be eliminated–FAST! Because if you can’t or won’t put your own ego and personal gains aside, you will tear down all efforts and hope. I, for one, will not stand for it.
Mark said “boldly and clearly” nothing of the sort.
What courageous efforts by Beck and his staff? Googling? Their research is little more than repeating (often without attribution) the work of others.
SGT TIM
Get the transcripts. I was making dinner and amot calded myself, I was so taken back. You may have missed it because just as the words were out of his mouth,a commercial rolled in.When he came back on the air he never went back to it. I am not ticking for tacking who said what first..etc. I guess I sort of look at “Beck’s Gall” as Wilson’s, “you lie”. Many have said it, thought it, written it…but it took guts and sheer courage to bring issues center front.
Ya know, out here in California, Beck is on first. Lately, the “headine” on Beck is on Hannity and Van Sustren. Yet, I have never heard Beck balk, or Hannity, respectively.
As a viewer, the more powerhouses reporting the same thing, with the same intensity, the more I have a sense of assurance and confidence that we are getting somewhere…not just vascillating the same old opinions and verbage.
I don’t know if Mark reads these comments, but if he does, I pray that he wil refrain from sowing the seeds of discord. To continue this path is to feed the monster he purports to hate.
Usually, I don’t do transcripts but for you, I’ll make an exception. You are welcome to download the entire show and use the counter to point out where he said what you say he did.
What Mark actually said was, “[T]here is an effort underway to promote somebody else. This effort is by the individual and, oddly enough, the liberal media.” While Mark did not allege collusion, Rush is under constant scrutiny and attack by the lib media; it serves their purposes to promote Beck, just as Beck’s self-promotion serves himself.
The comments here and on Free Republic have a lot of hemming and hawing about the need to stick together. So, here’s a suggestion to sow unity for Beck in that regard: attribute all your sources, give credit to all those who dug out the facts, promote them, and encourage your listeners/viewers to follow the leads those sources provide. Almost always, there is more to the stories that Beck steals (that is the correct word when he fails to attribute) and Beck’s audience would be better informed if he encouraged them to follow the additional leads. That would sow unity.
Sgt Tim [fixed it for you]; not sure when I can get to download. But assuming at this point that I misheard “LEFT FOR LIBERAL”, would you mind quantifying the difference. And, please, in your effort to explain or downplay Levin’s comments and position,PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, do not subject us to the same display of arrogance and dismissal we get from Obama and Congress EVERYDAY!
Enough now! Putin just gave Kuddos to Obama for dismantling the missile defense project in Europe!
ALL HANDS ON DECK NOW…MAYDAY..MAYDAY. One more push by Obama to destroy AMERICA.
Ya know, if we survive the crisis we find ourselves in daily, and once again our country is safe from tyranny and collapse, then Rush, Mark, Beck, Hannity, can keep their lawyers busy, and civil court dockets full. But for now..we all need to be pulling together like never before.
The new surge of American involvment in taking back and saving our Republic is not about a popularity contest between Talk Show Hosts! It is now WAY BEYOND THAT! Americans, from all persuasions, are coming together facing the evil forces in our government that are bent on destroying FREEDOM AND DEMOCRACY!
To get in the way of this, because of pettiness, jealousy, greed and ego, is to clearly reveal that you are not going to walk your talk. Mark, if you can’t reconcile yourself….then take a sabbatical. We will be able to forgive you, if you need to take a break for awhile. But to use your influence you derail this historic and effective movement, IN ANYWAY WILL BE THE UNPARDONABLE SIN…from which you will never recover and go down with the rest of us!
Well stated, Carole!
Beck didn’t compare himself to Rush. I can’t imagine him ever doing that. He’s too humble, plus he knows better.
There will be other forces that will try to start a flame war between conservatives in the coming months and leading up to 2012.
Mark, Rush, Sean, et al… don’t take the bait. Remember “united we stand…” ?
Mo K., have you ever heard Mark mention the word, “backbencher”? Mark has been talking about the problems he has had with a “backbencher” for years, now. Mark says, “I say now what the backbenchers will repeat tomorrow.” He has been talking about Beck. For years Beck has been stealing ideas and information right out of Mark’s shows and writings. Mark used to do a daily blog on National Review Online. Mark had to stop that blog because it was Beck’s daily show talking points! What has been Beck’s reaction to Mark’s complaints? Beck started playing Mark’s theme song as bumper music. That, in my opinion, was flipping Mark the bird. So, in light of that, can you blame Mark for rejecting the notion that Beck is more important than Rush?
Yeah, I know he frequently mentions backbenchers, MLF. I didn’t know who he was referring to specifically, and it’s plural, so I assumed he was meaning a handful of radio hosts (possibly even local ones).
I used to listen to Beck’s radio show, but our area hasn’t carried it for awhile. I only watch his TV show these days and everything I’ve seen has been original. Admittedly, I haven’t heard enough of his radio show to make my own assessment, and our market didn’t carry Levin until after I stopped listening to Beck– I’d only hear Levin when he subbed for someone.
However, Beck has only recently become a household name, which is a result of his TV show. Maybe his radio show is gaining in popularity as a result, and what prompted the Politico question.
Frankly, I hear all of them talking about most of the same issues of the day and using some of the same expressions. If Levin has proof of Beck’s plagiarism, then he should take legal action.
And I don’t think anyone would dispute who has contributed more over the years– it’s clearly Rush.
But it just plays out poorly to this listener, esp. not knowing who he’s talking about, and when he speaks in generalities.
All of that said, I don’t want them to all be from the same cookie-cutter. I like their different personalities and how they make their points. There’s enough variety (for me, anyway) that entices me to tune in every day.
Yes, he says “backbenchers” plural. However, when Mark started hinting, the other backbencher took the hint and she stopped the blatant stealing. Beck, on the other hand, started to throwing it in Mark’s face by doing crap like putting it up on posters! Totally shameless, Mo. Believe me!
Putting what up on posters, MLF? I can understand Mark’s frustration and if Beck blatantly and obviously stole material from him, I would have problems with that, too. So no, I can’t blame him for being irritated with Beck.
But, and this is to Carole’s question/point… Millions of us aren’t aware of this “bad blood”. To step back objectively and observe this without that prior information, it just appears to be bad form.
People are justifiably confused and dismayed by his reaction.
Beck has been a uniter over the past several months, and he had a helluva lot of support on 9-12.
We all say things that we sometimes wish we had said differently. I think he might have been too much in a “microcosm” when he replied. There are too many people who have only come to know Beck mainly through FNC, so this is perplexing to them.
We have been listening to Mark go on about Beck (without mentioning him by name) for quite some time now. Why did Mark not call him out by name before this? Mark did so with many other people, why not Beck?
Beck does carry a torch but I fear that he makes some profound errors. True, it is not about democrat vs. republican but it is about conservative principles and those principles are embodied within the republican party that is now trying to get it right independent of how wrong they have been in the recent past. There is a difference between democrats and republicans, that is very significant, because the party of the left are the democrats; they are the socialists, Marxists and statists. To the extent that Beck tries to remain universally appealing is a clear distinction between him and Levin. He shares air-time with O’Rielly and although Beck is to the right of O’Rielly he still persists in maintaining the same belief that there are good people on both sides. There are good people on the republican side but the people on the democrat side have yet to be made good. Any that have already have proven that they understand founding principles have yet to demonstrate it and even then they will be in short supply. Both sides are not equal. Both sides have bad people but one side is almost all bad. Beck may win viewers by lumping the players together and Levin may lose listeners by making the distinctions but Levin has a clear monopoly on all the truth.
Task,
I do not think Beck is lumping conservatives together with the socialists amd Marxists. I think it is clear, he is calling out to those whom are traditional Democrats, whom have found themselves trapped in loyalty to their traditions, yet realizing that they can no longer embrace the policies, DUE TO THE COMMIE INFILTRATIONS OF THEIR PARTY.
Anyone who has attended any of the Tea Parties or Town Hall meetings, as I have, would understand how these displaced Democrats need a place to anchor their concerns for our nation. I believe, Beck has provided that invitation graciously and astutely. Remember, Regan was once a very active Democrat. Had their been the kind of shortsightedness displayed by some here,toward him, we may have missed the greatest President and remarkable Dignitary of our time.
We need to unite to get passed this meaningless and destructive disparity. UNITED WE STAND….BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY…DIVIDED WE FALL!
Carole,
I did not disparage Beck but pointed out the differences between him and Levin and where we deserve clarification regarding the policies of the parties. There is a chasm of difference between republicans and today’s democrats. They are truly socialists. Maybe Beck is letting down O’Reilly in an easy manner because he sure does agree with Levin on founding principles much more than he does with O’Reilly. But his concerns should involve more than corruption because the greatest insurance against corruption is governing within Constitutional restraints. Which party is closest and which is most distant (intolerant) to those restraints? The republicans need to be tweaked while the dems need to be defeated. I guess I am no longer tolerant of the lunatics on the left (who are mainstream) and then have them lumped with all republicans by someone on our side. My wife watches Beck almost every day, when I am at work. She then listens to Levin and also finds the disharmony troubling. I watch Beck now and then and listened to him extensively years ago. I am trying to point out that Beck is an offspring of Levin, a second generation acolyte that got up to speed based upon Levin’s understanding of liberty along with his teaching style. To Levin’s credit Beck is his most ardent proponent, but without addressing the national mentor. In fact the only one that had it down right before Levin was Limbaugh (who addresses what Levin provides). Many believe Beck is a backbencher and I suspect if he referenced his materials a little more the criticism would have to disappear. In all honesty, when Beck latches on to something he becomes a sort of Drudge. Obviously when the person that does this does not mention a scintilla of info regarding his source it is bothersome to the originalist.
The comments in this section clearly reference the dissatisfaction people have regarding infighting, especially at this time in American politics where we face an enemy greater than any that is armed. I predicted many years ago that Levin would be a success and I stated the same for Beck. There is no stopping either of these guys because the public likes the info and the style of both men. This is their time for obvious reasons. They are putting the MSM out to pasture.
BTW, most displaced democrats are part of the citizenry who are amazed regarding their representatives who do not represent the common man. They are professional politicians who are elitists that crave power and permanence and will fix the system to keep it that way.
Task, I really hear what you are saying, and agree. I think this new era of conservatism is having many LAYERS building upon itself. I am 65 y/o and have never experienced anything like this. I am incredibly grateful to be a part of it. While Rush has been around for a long time, sometimes, I think he is more self-promoting than Mark or Beck or any of them. Of course that doesn’t include O’Reilley. He takes the grand prize on that one. And yet, I can remember when he(O’Rielley) was the last word on everything. So, perhaps this movement has an evolutionary component to it. My hope would be that the oldtimers will last long enough to push the newcomers over the victory line. Everything happens so fast, next week, BECK could be an “old-timer”
I enjoy Levin, but to me he sounds real petty. He sounds pissed that the trio of Rush, Sean and himself are somehow less influential.
I too throw shoes at the TV when Beck throws in Repubs with the Commies but he’s doing a good job.
There’s plenty of room.
Buy more shoes, Jeff; you are going to need the ammunition.
I agree… It’s the one thing that annoys the sh*t out of me about Beck. He’ll go on a rant about how unconstitutional and corrupt the Dems are and end it with his patented throw away line (“and the Republicans are no better”).
And believe me I’m no GOP lapdog. They have far too many RINOs and blew it on many issues over the years. But to lump them in with this marxist group is way over the top. And to do it regularly is stupid.
I really like Mark, Glen, Rush, Hannity and all the other guys. But I do believe they talk it up a little for entertainment. So it maybe exaggerated a little or a lot. But I do like to be informed from both sides. The media doesn’t report on everything. It is good to listen and make up my own mind. A little research don’t hurt either.
Mark
Of course Rush is the best. But Glenn plays his part. At this point in time, we need all hands on deck. Let’s not criticize other conservative talk shows. Rush has been on Glenn’s show at least once and recently on his tv show. I don’t think Rush has any animosity towards Beck. It seems you might. Please don’t go down that road.
Mark, before I retired, I was a CEO of a large entity. I used to love, and feel honored when my people would use my material. Many times they built on it and many many times I was never GIVEN THE CREDIT.
A true leader thrives on reproducing him/herself. But a true leader has to have impeccable self-esteem so as not to be threatened by any “new kid on the block”
My other concern, or perhaps question is: have you discussed your concerns with Beck, before attempting to flush him down the toilet publically, to the thousands that have now been exposed to this bad blood…?
I understand how Mark would feel slighted by O’Reilly and Beck; although I think the slight from Beck bothers him more. Mark has made a tremendous splash in both the broadcast and print media, especially in the last couple of years. O’Reilly and Beck are two of the leading voices for conservatism in the nation today, and it is hard to imagine how or why either one of them hasn’t recognized him for the gigantic contribution he has made with “Liberty and Tyranny.” So put yourselves in Mark’s shoes first.
But having said that, I think Mark may be misinterpreting why they haven’t recognized him. The hurt in his voice makes me think he believes that they are snubbing and discounting him, that they are dismissing him as irrelevant and an unimportant voice in the conservative movement. But I don’t think that is the reason at all. I think the very opposite is true. It is because he HAS become such a huge figure in the conservative movement. For O’Reilly and Beck to ignore Mark as big as he has become can only be one of two things. Either they don’t like him personally or they feel threatened by him. Who knows? Maybe they feel he has been a little harsh in some of the things he’s said about them. That’s entirely possible.
For Mark, he is such an honest person that it’s hard for him to hide what’s really going on inside of him. I think because he’s felt ignored by those guys, his resentment has welled up into what we’ve been hearing. It is an unjustified insecurity though. Mark, your place is secure with us regardless of whether those guys choose to recognize you or not. You and you alone are “The Great One.†What I hate to see are two people who agree on so much at odds with one another. Mark and Glenn are so close in their beliefs that we’d be hard-pressed to find any daylight between the two. And when it comes to passion, they both have few equals. I would far rather see you guys unite and work together than to be at each other’s throats like this. Come on guys, we’re facing a real monster here that’s trying to steal the soul of our country away from us. We can’t afford to waste our efforts fighting with each other.
Here’s something you might consider Mark. Ask Glenn to come on your show. Take the first step. I honestly think everything will work out from there. It would help our movement immensely right now.
Mark Anders:
DITTO DITTO DITTO AMEN AMEN AMEN
Horsepucky! This is not about jealousy; there is no “hurt” in Mark’s voice. Let’s say you two built a house and Glenn Beck then sold it as if it were his own and kept the profits. Would you be happy that he made a successful sale?
Beck sells on-air the work, research, and intellectual property of others as if they are his, with little to no attribution. Go read ‘Culture of Corruption,’ the April archives of WND, and the more recent archives of the Gateway Pundit and Matthew Vadum (the American Spectator) about Obama’s czars and specifically about Van Jones. Then watch the Beck videos on YouTube during the week he went after the czars and Van Jones. Perhaps you should wear sunglasses when you do to keep the stars in your eyes from blinding you to what Beck left out: attribution.
And furthermore…perhaps Mr. Beck should make the first move and invite Mark onto his tv show, call-in or otherwise. One doesn’t really expect Mr. Beck to go on another radio show when he has his own, do you think? Yeah, but it’s a little different with Sean and Mark; they’re best friends, you know.
There is an opportunity to ‘patch this up’, but the initiative shouldn’t be Mark’s. As task said earlier, if the transgressions ceased, so would the animosity. Hm??
I love Mark Levin, and have bought his book. He is better educated and more intellectual than either Limbaugh or Beck. But Beck is very cleverly reaching outside the conservative base, and to the great middle, by pointing to corruption in both parties. If you listen carefully, though, he’ll lead with one example of Republican corruption, then follow up with 20 examples of Democrat corruption.
I don’t think he’d go third party. I could be wrong, but I don’t think that is what he has in mind, at all. I’m sure he realizes that a third party will only ensure a Democrat victory.
That’s the problem with Beck, you never know what he will do. He professes to be Libertarian. Traditionally, they lean toward losing 3rd party candidates.
This is what we do, this is why the commies are in control, and I do mean control. We can’t help but eat our own. The republicans would sooner throw one of their own under the bus than a Dem.I feel like a child when one parent is bad mouthing the other, it hurts because they love both parents, which is why this has stirred so much passion.We must stick together or there will be no Mark, Rush Sean or Glenn to listen to with the current crop in control and you people know thats true. So stop it!!! Remember 1994 when Reps. came together for the contract for America, great things happened. We know who the real enemy is, and they’re sitting back enjoying this!
Think of what broke the 40-year string of growing government and over-regulation created by the liberal Democrats in Congress. It was a 3rd party mentality that brought us Clinton in 1992 yet is was the Contract with America made (and later broken) that broke the string in 1994. We need to fix the GOP from within. We must choose our own candidates during the primaries and not leave it to the media to pick them for us. We need honest and truly conservative Republicans for the House, Senate, and Presidential races. Then we must focus money on their campaigns, not the GOP coffers. If you disagree, show me your 3rd party candidates that are viable for 2010?
I’ll be the first one to admit I made a mistake in voting for 3rd party candidate Perot. It was a case of “voting my conscience”, but in hindsight, it won Clinton the election. Sure, I believe in the ideals of (for example) the Constitution Party, but they’re wasting their time and we’re wasting our money if we contribute to them.
We need a strong conservative in the Republican party.
The Electoral College determines who wins. They don’t vote on a third, fourth, or fifth party.
I think Beck is smart enough to realize this (he’s only slightly older than I), but I’ll send him a message, just in case.
That would be good. Please let us know if you get a reply.
—I have voted the lesser of 2 evils all my life (Republican.) No more! Glenn is absolutely correct. Both parties are part of the 2 headed statist monster and I am tired of Republicans stabbing me in the back after they get into office. Ron Paul is one of the few I would vote for.
—As for plagerizing conservative principles…that is nonsense. Everyone today is plagerizing conservatives who fought for the same principles at the time of George Washington. The same battles existed in that era. You can thank early conservatives for the Bill of Rights.
Mandrake
Um, that’s “Dr.” RuPaul…