Anyway, are we going to be able ban Obama for torturing us for four years, or is that going to have to be “properly vetted” through the MSM?

If you really wonder about how the British felt about torturing Germans you need to ask, not the British, but the Irish who would have quite a different tale to tell including what happened to them under seven hundred years of British rule.

For too long we have listened to the rhetoric of those intoxicated with self-indulgent flattery, use Bush and Cheney as the backdrop to advance their agendas of collective benevolence while simultaneously dismissing decades of history that portray a set of facts that more correctly bespeaks of a compassion closer to Hades than to Heaven. They are factual liars and ineloquent sophists who have long ago spent my patience and I have no intention of ever replenishing that account in any attempt to correct the record. Are we that far removed from the D-Day stories, both told and untold, 911, ethnic cleansing, international Al Quida atrocities and so much other barbarism that is both current and relevant to the thousands of years of history that we can afford to risk the lives of the innocent to procure an idealism promulgated solely by academic elites who often function as dysfunctional misfits when challenged by real world circumstances? These are the elites whose world perspective, has been fundamentally crafted by a Ward Churchill clone who delights in comparisons between Cheney and the Marquis de Sade while himself hiding in a University Department heavily funded by the toil of taxpayers and protected by tenure; their real world perspective is about as close to real world experiences as is the resume of a community agitator who primarily views government as a feeding trough in an Orwellian novel. If it were not for our intelligence gathering, military and police we would be a lot closer to hell than to heaven and Jonah Goldberg clearly was on target when he wrote about the civilian Dresden bombing ordered by the same Churchill that Obama felt in sync with regarding his reluctance to use torture. Apparently Winston Churchill felt the slaughter of innocent civilian Germans was the right thing to do to prevent the slaughter of innocent British civilians and he not only knew that the Germans would have done the same thing, if they could, but he was obviously unconcerned with the pursuit of any alternative suicidal idealism.

The statist and their supporters love to employ relativism relative to absolutes so this area, where there never will be any clear line of demarcation between happiness, sadness, depression, comfort, discomfort, pain, suffering and anguish will provide a never ending continuum of subjectivity for their controversies. I spent the greater part of my life in a vocation arguing with suffering and that knowledge also embodies a dark understanding of things most people would never want to fully comprehend. It is in that vein that those who oppose interrogation believe that an interrogator can often obtain a confession that cannot be ascertained to be true or false because any information will cause the interrogation to cease. In reality the results of an interrogation are often compared with the results obtained by other interrogations, just as in any court proceedings, and that information, when sufficiently consistent leads to the truth.

The same people who believe that the ends justifies the means when whole governments are overthrown and millions are slaughtered in the quest for utopia are still consistent in the alternative view whereby almost no means justifies an end that prevents the unnecessary slaughter of millions for that same vision of utopia. Should they eventually get their way I suspect such an ideological victory may fulfill a Pyrrhic definition where such a victory loses the war and all the ideology along with it as well.

I’m glad I opted to watch the only programming with the correct title last night, Lie To Me on my local Fox affiliate.