Comments on: Arlen Specter returns to Dems (the swine flew) http://marklevinfan.com/2009/04/28/arlen-specter-returns-to-dems-roost-the-swine-flew/ Unofficial fan website for the Great One, Mark Levin! Fri, 10 Feb 2012 23:14:10 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: task http://marklevinfan.com/2009/04/28/arlen-specter-returns-to-dems-roost-the-swine-flew/comment-page-1/#comment-44109 task Wed, 29 Apr 2009 15:16:22 +0000 http://marklevinfan.com/?p=4652#comment-44109 Of course. They are from the same party and the same state and, although Graham is not fiscally reckless as those that voted for the massive stimulus bill to grow government he is trying to head off criticism because he is John McCain’s buddy and suffers from an indistinguishable voting record that puts him at odds with conservative DeMint but neither of the two can afford to have a public confrontation to feed a media fest so they side swipe each other on principles and how to grow the party. It is not difficult to read between the lines. Grahm and McCain were right on the stimulus and Spector was wrong. Grahm and McCain and other so-called moderates were wrong on immigration and they also contributed to the gang of 14. Such behavior simply cannot be part of the big-tent concept because it snipes at bed-rock core conservative principles. If you want to discuss the party of intolerance just look how a far left leaning liberal such as Lieberman was treated simply because of his Iraq stance. How many pro-lifers in the anomalous liberal big-tent party of inclusiveness? Gram is an odd hybrid that seems better fit to run as the governor of CA which needs fiscal discipline but supports the Cap & Trade CO2 model and has a suicidal immigration social conscience. The problem is that such compromise always fails. What he accomplishes one way he undoes in another and that goes for any other mix of conservatism and liberalism. DeMInt and Grahm were forced to comment by circumstances brought about by Spector so they stood behind their beliefs, each affording their own interpretation and perspective but with party damage control in mind. Spector is another species altogether. We always had to give him something. Some Americans would commit suicide for this country while Spector would have the country commit suicide for him. It is about him and only him and just like the liberal left he is concerned with his future and not the future of the country. He likes the Senate and all of the trappings because he is a lonely old man that needs the collegiate atmosphere the Senate affords; he has no intention in giving up his club membership. He is an outstanding example of why we need term limits. Of course. They are from the same party and the same state and, although Graham is not fiscally reckless as those that voted for the massive stimulus bill to grow government he is trying to head off criticism because he is John McCain’s buddy and suffers from an indistinguishable voting record that puts him at odds with conservative DeMint but neither of the two can afford to have a public confrontation to feed a media fest so they side swipe each other on principles and how to grow the party. It is not difficult to read between the lines. Grahm and McCain were right on the stimulus and Spector was wrong. Grahm and McCain and other so-called moderates were wrong on immigration and they also contributed to the gang of 14. Such behavior simply cannot be part of the big-tent concept because it snipes at bed-rock core conservative principles. If you want to discuss the party of intolerance just look how a far left leaning liberal such as Lieberman was treated simply because of his Iraq stance. How many pro-lifers in the anomalous liberal big-tent party of inclusiveness? Gram is an odd hybrid that seems better fit to run as the governor of CA which needs fiscal discipline but supports the Cap & Trade CO2 model and has a suicidal immigration social conscience. The problem is that such compromise always fails. What he accomplishes one way he undoes in another and that goes for any other mix of conservatism and liberalism.

DeMInt and Grahm were forced to comment by circumstances brought about by Spector so they stood behind their beliefs, each affording their own interpretation and perspective but with party damage control in mind. Spector is another species altogether. We always had to give him something. Some Americans would commit suicide for this country while Spector would have the country commit suicide for him. It is about him and only him and just like the liberal left he is concerned with his future and not the future of the country. He likes the Senate and all of the trappings because he is a lonely old man that needs the collegiate atmosphere the Senate affords; he has no intention in giving up his club membership. He is an outstanding example of why we need term limits.

]]> By: Sgt Tim http://marklevinfan.com/2009/04/28/arlen-specter-returns-to-dems-roost-the-swine-flew/comment-page-1/#comment-44108 Sgt Tim Wed, 29 Apr 2009 14:55:32 +0000 http://marklevinfan.com/?p=4652#comment-44108 What I noted was DeMint did not disagree with Mark about "Goober" Graham. Even if he did not name him, what DeMint said last night disagrees with what Graham said yesterday. What I noted was DeMint did not disagree with Mark about “Goober” Graham. Even if he did not name him, what DeMint said last night disagrees with what Graham said yesterday.

]]> By: MLF http://marklevinfan.com/2009/04/28/arlen-specter-returns-to-dems-roost-the-swine-flew/comment-page-1/#comment-44107 MLF Wed, 29 Apr 2009 13:56:06 +0000 http://marklevinfan.com/?p=4652#comment-44107 To be honest, I'm not sure I follow what DeMint was saying regarding Lindsey Graham. Seems like he was trying NOT to criticize Graham. Did anyone else get that impression? To be honest, I’m not sure I follow what DeMint was saying regarding Lindsey Graham. Seems like he was trying NOT to criticize Graham. Did anyone else get that impression?

]]> By: task http://marklevinfan.com/2009/04/28/arlen-specter-returns-to-dems-roost-the-swine-flew/comment-page-1/#comment-44106 task Wed, 29 Apr 2009 13:29:27 +0000 http://marklevinfan.com/?p=4652#comment-44106 Spector is now the epicenter of republican outrage, not just from brash conservatives influencing moderates as other left leaning senators are certain to proclaim but because he is fiscally derelict and the public sees it. Collins, Snowe and Graham are lucky that they are sufficiently distanced from re-election to secure their immediate future but McCain is in the crosshairs. Hagal, Chaffe, Warner and DeWine are already defeated or left office so the party is now better defined on principles instead of personal politics. Spector was about to lose because he can’t be differentiated from a liberal in Pennsylvania and that is all there is to it. So now he runs as the liberal that he always was and by changing his affiliation he is supposed to improve his chances? I don’t think so. McCain, the foot soldier with two left feet in the Reagan revolution, could have also changed his party since he once nearly did so for presidential aspirations. I suspect that in the coming months ahead both he and Spector will further beat up the party, McCain from the inside and Spector from the outside so as to justify their history of reckless pandering and worthless bipartisanship. What part of Spector’s bipartisanship shaped the stimulus bill? Who compromised on McCain/Feingold? They both equally compromised the First Amendment. Unfortunately, pain and negative experiences are still the best teachers and this country has now set the stage for the most momentous learning experience that I have witnessed in my lifetime. The public is outraged, they are learning fast and are very concerned. The biggest problem that normal leadership (conservative) faces is whether the liberal criminal left can steal, dilute, overrun or deny the vote to what used to be the that great swath of American voters who understood, believed in and lived by our founding American principles. To the extent that it has made us so successful we now seem to have forgotten how we got here and that is not unlike a successful fisherman who, incredibly, one day forgets where the water is. Spector is now the epicenter of republican outrage, not just from brash conservatives influencing moderates as other left leaning senators are certain to proclaim but because he is fiscally derelict and the public sees it. Collins, Snowe and Graham are lucky that they are sufficiently distanced from re-election to secure their immediate future but McCain is in the crosshairs. Hagal, Chaffe, Warner and DeWine are already defeated or left office so the party is now better defined on principles instead of personal politics. Spector was about to lose because he can’t be differentiated from a liberal in Pennsylvania and that is all there is to it. So now he runs as the liberal that he always was and by changing his affiliation he is supposed to improve his chances? I don’t think so.

McCain, the foot soldier with two left feet in the Reagan revolution, could have also changed his party since he once nearly did so for presidential aspirations. I suspect that in the coming months ahead both he and Spector will further beat up the party, McCain from the inside and Spector from the outside so as to justify their history of reckless pandering and worthless bipartisanship. What part of Spector’s bipartisanship shaped the stimulus bill? Who compromised on McCain/Feingold? They both equally compromised the First Amendment.

Unfortunately, pain and negative experiences are still the best teachers and this country has now set the stage for the most momentous learning experience that I have witnessed in my lifetime. The public is outraged, they are learning fast and are very concerned. The biggest problem that normal leadership (conservative) faces is whether the liberal criminal left can steal, dilute, overrun or deny the vote to what used to be the that great swath of American voters who understood, believed in and lived by our founding American principles. To the extent that it has made us so successful we now seem to have forgotten how we got here and that is not unlike a successful fisherman who, incredibly, one day forgets where the water is.

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